Trollbeads Pumpkin Caterpillar for Great Lakes Boutique

This Trollbeads blog offers a preview of the exclusive Trollbeads Pumpkin Caterpillar for the Great Lakes Boutique Bead Bash on the Lake.

The Great Lakes Boutique Bead Bash on the Lake Fall 2018 takes place on Friday September the 28th, Saturday the 29th and Sunday the 30th and you can already book your hotel rooms right here.

For the spring event we had more people flying to join us than ever before and it was incredibly humbling. We deliberately announced the fall dates back in January to hopefully allow as much time for travel arrangements as possible. For the same reason we’re starting to tease our event beads and promotions a little earlier this time.

For fall there will be more exclusives and promotions than we have ever attempted before and quantities have been increased. Do remember there is no ticket price for our events but we really do appreciate it if you can sign up on the Facebook group. It helps enormously when it comes to ensuring there’s enough food.

Spring was the first time we had a Trollbeads event bead and it was of course the amazing Trollbeads Violet Caterpillar. This was designed to complement Vine of Dreams, the brands designer bracelet for the spring season.

Trollbeads Violet Caterpillar

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Trollbeads Pumpkin Caterpillar

Today we’re unveiling the exclusive Trollbeads Pumpkin Caterpillar as the fall event bead. This was actually the first design created for the autumn event and we’re once again so grateful to Trollbeads for supporting our vision for the Halloween Bead Bash.

Please note this is a mock up as opposed to a stock image.

The harvest moon wanes and Samhain draws nigh
The pumpkin patch stirs with a raven’s cry
Join us for Bead Bash it’ll be such a thriller..
As we unveil our exclusive Pumpkin Caterpillar πŸ˜‰

Trollbeads Pumpkin Caterpillar

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The Trollbeads Pumpkin Caterpillar will debut in store on September the 28th. Per brand rules we cannot offer this bead online. It will retail at $45 and be limited to one thousand pieces. There are no pre-orders nor reserves for this bead as it’s unnecessary for those attending in store.

Trollbeads Pumpkin Caterpillar Summary

I’ve always felt the Caterpillar design to be really iconic to Trollbeads. The brand still has it’s roots (and name) embedded in folklore and fantasy. The colour is an obvious choice for the fall and we’re absolutely thrilled with this bead.

This is one of the in store exclusives and there is still plenty of time to book travel. Anyone needing help with that is free to contact me directly. The airport you need is Cleveland Hopkins and the airport code is CLE.

As always I love to hear from my readers. What are your thoughts on the Trollbeads Pumpkin Caterpillar? Hit the comments and let me know!

Comments
  1. Elena

    Wow, I’m loving the Violet Caterpillar! Do you know where I might find it? I checked the official website and the Great Lake Boutique but couldn’t find it. Perhaps I overlooked it?

    The Pumpkin Caterpillar is cute. Just NMS.

    • endangeredtrolls

      As per the article the Violet Caterpillar was the event bead for spring and just like the Pumpkin Caterpillar, it can’t be sold online – which is why you won’t find it on the websites πŸ™‚

  2. Martha Olavarrieta

    Love it!!! Really nice bead πŸ˜ƒ

    • endangeredtrolls

      Glad you like it πŸ˜‰

  3. Faye_T

    A very nice design for a Halloween event. I find it interesting that event beads are unavailable online. Victoria can you shed any insight into that?

    Good work Great Lakes, there is clearly a lot of heart in this design

    • endangeredtrolls

      Ermmm. Well obviously I’m not exactly privy to the thought processes or reasoning behind their policies. That’s above my pay grade πŸ˜‰

      If I had to take a guess it would be partly related to not disrupting the global market. There was a time if you might remember when the event promotions weren’t permitted online either. Fortunately that rule was lifted, I assume because quite frankly e-commerce is just so huge these days and many retailers depend on it. Events need to be worthwhile for the store and the investment is enormous.

      I also think it might be in part due to how special the event beads are. Trollbeads are a huge corporation. I think sometimes people forget just how big they actually are. It’s actually really a big deal to get an exclusive bead from them. It’s not like Pandora where they’re often just engraving something different onto an existing silver design. If you look at it from that side, they might also just want these beads to stay really really special and limiting it to in store sales is one way of doing that.

      Regardless I do appreciate why people get frustrated about it. Though I’m pleased you love the bead πŸ™‚

      • Faye_T

        One could argue however that limiting beads to in store fuels the after market. If they were simply sold online, many more collectors could freely purchase.

        • endangeredtrolls

          I agree… I suspect whoever is in charge of these decisions has a list of pros and cons πŸ™ Perhaps in the future they’ll reconsider. I don’t really know πŸ™

  4. Cyndi C

    Love it. I’ve been wanting to start a fall bracelet. That will fit beautifully. Thanks for the preview!

    • endangeredtrolls

      You are most welcome! πŸ˜€ Fall is by far my favourite time of year. I seriously keep looking at the calendar on my laptop and thinking “is it too early to start showing fall bracelets….” πŸ˜›

      I’m so pleased you like it πŸ˜€

  5. Debbie

    Love it! Reminds me of the retired Pumpkin but as a Caterpillar!

    • endangeredtrolls

      Yes! πŸ˜€

  6. Persimone

    I adore this bead and am hopeful to find a bead fairy since numbers look more generous.
    It will look amazing with the old Anniversary Caterpillar! Victoria can you make pictures like that?

    • endangeredtrolls

      I can! But.. not just yet. The beads still aren’t with us but once they are I’ll be sure to show it with the old Caterpillar πŸ˜‰ I’m so pleased you like it! πŸ˜€

  7. Jane

    I bet the purple and the pumpkin caterpillars πŸ› makes a great combination πŸ™‚

    • endangeredtrolls

      I hadn’t really thought of that to be honest. I want to try them with a little gold I think πŸ˜€

      • Jane

        Yes, gold will definitely work. I think the purple- the pumpkin- and the green anniversary caterpillar will be good together, as purple, orange and green form a so-called “triad” on a colour-chart πŸ™‚

  8. Cornelia

    Was going to comment “Now this is Halloween” and then began humming the song from Nightmare Before Christmas LOL.

    Was confused about 10:20am and how that was for Halloween but this one is perfect! Now to find a bead fairy!

    • endangeredtrolls

      I love that movie <3 :p But the song will be in your head all night now πŸ˜‰

      I'm so pleased you like it πŸ˜€

  9. Katie

    Did I miss the price on this please? It’s amazing. Thank you Great Lakes for making me impatient for autumn! What am I meant to do for 6 weeks? =)

    • endangeredtrolls

      You did! It’s $45 which is standard for the Trollbeads event beads πŸ™‚

      As for the wait time.. I hear ya πŸ˜‰ I’m desperate for fall previews and fall bracelets. Wear amber πŸ˜‰ You can tell yourself it looks like sunshine when really you just want fall :p

  10. Jennifer

    OMG

    • endangeredtrolls

      Is that good..? πŸ˜›

      • Jennifer

        Good! It’s amazing!

        • endangeredtrolls

          Oh thank goodness :p Yay! πŸ˜€

  11. Heather

    Does the higher quantity mean there will be no restrictions for those attending in store?

    • endangeredtrolls

      Within reason πŸ˜‰ But yes we’re aware of people needing bead fairies and the like.

  12. Melissa Mesquita

    So sad that’s just for in store sales, I love the design looks amazing for fall/Halloween bracelets. I wish there was events like these in Portugal but I don’t think it would ever happen, people here just buy pandora, everytime I refer other brands people just don’t care, they only know about pandora and don’t even try to see the beautiful designs that other brands like trollbeads have. Also it’s almost impossible to find trollbeads or ohmbeads or redbalifrog in stores, I can only get them online from other countries.

    • endangeredtrolls

      I’m really sorry to hear that. I don’t think Portugal have a distributor for Trollbeads which is probably part of the problem. Fortunately online retailers do a really good job at accommodating those shopping online these days.

      We wish we could offer it online too but we just can’t πŸ™

  13. Liz

    There will be a lot of bead fairies needed. I also think like Faye that they should just let shops sell these online. It would still be special and stop dishonest folks.

    Love your idea of using gold!

    • endangeredtrolls

      I agree but as someone in e-commerce I am absolutely bias πŸ˜›

  14. caroline

    Hi, Could someone start up a “Bead Fairies Anonymous”.
    I’ll bet the numbers would be over the top!!

    • endangeredtrolls

      That’s actually not a bad idea you know πŸ˜›

  15. Sarah

    I missed the Violet Caterpillar and the resale prices are so high πŸ™ Love the Pumpkin version

    • endangeredtrolls

      For anyone attending in store we do have a small supply of the Violet Caterpillars remaining πŸ˜‰ Soooooooo

      Again though, it’s in store only! :O

      • Lisa G

        So that’s where they went! Want to get a couple more of the purple too.

        • Lisa G

          There’s also a pink caterpillar out there. But I love the orange one😁😁😁

  16. Mel

    This is hands down the best event bead ever. It might even be the best Trollbaeds glass ever!!! I love Halloween!

    • endangeredtrolls

      Aw thank you! πŸ˜€ So pleased to hear you love it as much as we do πŸ˜€ Though in fairness no one has yet seen what Trollbeads have planned for the fall season πŸ˜€ I have high hopes πŸ˜›

  17. Maria

    I l0ve it 😍

    • endangeredtrolls

      Yay! Us too! πŸ˜€ Thank you πŸ˜€

  18. Lorna

    Dream bead! Victoria I’ve really enjoyed following you on social media. Your images and graphics are incredible.

    Have you or Great Lakes ever considered putting your work into print? Sort of a commemorative book for the events. Your artwork so far for the fall is perfect. After the comments last week this is so deserved. Your a gem to the community.

    • endangeredtrolls

      Naaaw bless you πŸ˜€

      Erm no :p I’ll be honest here graphic design has been a learning curve for me. I was actually vaguely pondering taking an online course but I’m not sure where I’d find the time. We did have banners at the spring event that used my photography and ohhh what a drama that was :p It’s the first time I’ve had to make anything to be in physical print and I think by the end of it the printers were about ready to strangle me.

    • Faye_T

      I second this. Who do we email to make this happen? Mike? Imagine a beautiful coffee table book each year.

      • endangeredtrolls

        Please don’t do that πŸ˜›

      • Maria

        Twice a year please, one in Spring and one in Fall πŸ˜ƒ

        • endangeredtrolls

          It’s really very kind of you ladies πŸ™‚ Thank you <3

    • Debbie

      Yes please! I would absolutely pay for this!

      • endangeredtrolls

        Or you can just look at it for free on my social media πŸ˜‰

        • Faye_T

          Not the same at all

  19. Elisabetta

    Oh but it’s perfect. Begging Trollbeads to let it for sale online

    • endangeredtrolls

      I’m so pleased that you like it πŸ˜€

    • AO

      Oh yes! Besides the photos in the TB catalogs leave… hehem…. a bit to be desired. I wish we had a catalog of ALL the trolls TB has produced. Victoria, I know we have your fantastic database, but a hardcopy would be fantastic.

      • endangeredtrolls

        Hi πŸ™‚

        I wouldn’t be able to do that I’m afraid. Stock images belong to Trollbeads and are therefore covered by copyright laws. I have permission to use their images online but they’d not be happy if I was compiling books with them πŸ™‚

  20. Angela

    Oh My, love this both color and design are timeless for Fall. The Purple was beautiful but this is even better. For me if it leans towards yellow ,gold ,brown rather than true Orange it will work all year and look fabulous with Ambers.
    Re : The Event bead it is exactly as named it is the something extra offered at a special price ,a reward and thank you to attendees of an event . Yes it would be nice if it were also open to on line ,but just think if you could stay home and just click and order would you ever think or want to make the trip to the event ? The event is for people to attend ,see your favorite brand , experience new brands ,see beads in real life, meet your Retailer plus the Representatives from other brands , mingle with other Bead people and ultimately to buy beads. When I attended I even saw people trading beads.

    I know from my experience as a retailer the aim is always to do better. In order to ensure their customers have an even more enjoyable time than previously the Great Lakes staff within days after one event ends start to work on the next. Trollbeads too while they make these for events also have rules that Retailers have to agree to. That there are a thousand pieces will probably afford the attendees to purchase multiples.

    That leads me to the unavoidable issue of reselling on the secondary market, If someone (let’s say Collector A )attends the event brings her husband , her teen daughter and a couple other pals to the event they all buy an event bead. That’s a total of 5 beads. On the way home one friend decide she doesn’t like the bead and Collector A buys it off her, that means Collector A now has four, she decided to keep two and sells two at double or triple price how does Great Lakes or any retail outlet 1) becomes responsible or 2 ) stop her from reselling the beads ?
    Don’t even bother thinking they should sell only one per family because my Sister and I are both collectors and there would be hell to pay if a retailer told me I could buy one and she could not because either of us could end up with 2 or either could sell one, After I give my monies to the Retailer they belong to me, it’s none of anyone’s business what I do with it .
    I and many other collectors have sold beads on eBay and privately, though someone may not like it and think it should only be β€œtrue Collectors β€œ to acquire a bead their thoughts are irrelevant when it comes to our purchases or what is ultimately done with them. May I remind you that it’s the so called True Collector that will buy it off these sites.

    My Son a collector of high end watches tells me that some brands limit to say a thousand numbered pieces.To cut down on casual reselling on eBay or their forums each are sold and registered with the company. Resellers if they post the watch usually gives the number. Someone monitors the sites and manufacturers can then tell who originall bought the watch and from what retail outlet. When next the customer attempts to make another purchase from the same retailer they the retailer would have been notified that a watch was resold by this client they would be questioned about the previous purchase, retailer could block subsequent purchases. This is for watches upwards of $25k who would want this for a $45 bead ? If this were to be done with beads I would be done with beads.

    Just seems crazy that folks keep blaming GLB or any retailer for what customers do with their property after it is purchased.

    • endangeredtrolls

      You’re correct.

      In an ideal world no one would resell beads or anything else for that matter, at a premium. No one would sell fake products either. The fact is there are multiple reasons people do it and one of those is simple demand.

      As I tried to explain last week there is absolutely nothing we can do about what a person does with a bead once they purchase from us. Does it make us sad? Of course it does

      If there was a simple way to stop either resellers or those selling fakes, the brands would have found it by now as it’s as much a problem to them as retailers πŸ™

      Do we hope that everyone buying these beads is doing so because they love them? Absolutely. Do we hope that if they decide to sell them on they would do so at retail, sure. Can we control that? Not in a million years πŸ™ Where there’s demand there are resellers.

  21. endangeredtrolls

    You’re absolutely right of course. Especially as a society we are getting more and more used to being able to stay home and order everything online πŸ˜‰

    If there’s no incentive then there’s no event. Plus the amount some people end up spending on getting the beads on the secondary market would seem to come very close to the trip itself πŸ™

  22. Marie

    Beautiful photo of a great bead for fall, Halloween, or monarch butterflies!

    Regarding the upcoming fall season? 100 days to Halloween! πŸŽƒ

    • endangeredtrolls

      So what you’re basically telling me is that it’s time to start preparing right? πŸ˜‰

      • Marie

        Absolutely! Fall is spectacular with all it’s color, crisp air and warm sun. Then Halloween… whether celebrated in its’ traditional form, horror movie glam (or gore), or colorful and full of treats, it has something to offer for everyone to enjoy.

        • endangeredtrolls

          I love both aspects of Halloween – the beauty of the outside world and the spooky part πŸ˜‰

          The whole fall season is just my absolute favourite πŸ˜€

  23. Jamie

    This is an absolutely wonderful bead, another home run event bead! I’d love to see more caterpillar uniques in general but it’s nice to see some new ones.

    **rant below… sorry😧😝**
    I do see where this conversation is going though… the second hand market and lack of availability. It’s a double edge topic. On one hand it’s a great privilege and a lot of hard work to bring together these events and have a bead made. But then for those who are unable to spend unmentionable amounts of money or can’t travel. It’s a sting to see these beads offered knowing you can’t have them. I will say this, I’ve gone to a few events over the years and I’ve seen and heard a lot. It’s amazing the lengths people will go to to get their hands on most prized beads. I do find it completely outrageous when someone ends up with a bracelet full of a very limited bead. They either keep them or sell them for $150-300 a bead. This kinda really grind my gears, we’re all in this collecting together. We should be kind and share, not hoard and be greedy. Being a new mother my priorities have changed. I can’t spend like I use to and I can’t keep up with the crazy second hand market. I’m greatful for what I have but it would be nice to have a chance at at least one or two of a certain bead. Im not greedy, i just want a little bit of the good stuff πŸ˜‹
    ****

    So like I’ve said before amazing work Victoria, to you and Great Lakes. It’s impossible for me to attend but I see how each year you keep bringing out all the stops! I’m looking forward to seeing your photo shoot of the latest caterpillar bead for Halloween. Wait we’re talking about Halloween allready?!πŸ˜…πŸŽƒ

    • endangeredtrolls

      We try πŸ˜‰

      Trust me as soon as I can get my hands on these I’ll be sharing images πŸ˜‰ Personally… I keep glancing at the calendar on my laptop as the end of July is always my own marker for switching to pre-fall and fall content :p

      • Jamie

        It’s hard to imagine summer is coming to an end soon! I’m okay with July being over because I’m sick of all this rain we are getting 😝 I’m ready for nice cool weather, and hopefully more dry!

        And as to my ignorance I didn’t realize the amount of disagreement and bickering. It’s a very touchy topic among the community. I don’t want to add fuel to the fire but I do agree with some comments. Yes there are some people who can take off work, travel and spend a ridiculous amount of money. To say selling beads towards travel cost.. ehh, not sure how I feel. I know if I asked someone to pick me up a bead or two I’d absolutely give them a few bucks to say thanks. Or maybe make them a goodie basket πŸ˜‡ I’m just worried event beads will be a thing of the past. And it saddens me to see everyone taking such harsh sides.
        I will say this, GO TO THE EVENTS they are wonderful! Find a great troll fairy if you’re unable. And if you are unable be greatful for what you have. I can’t express that enough. These are material items there’s no point to get in such a tissy over it. I have every Delaware event bead minus the amber because I didn’t like it. I’d love to have it but I know others would like to have one. I’m not going to have a complete collection just to say I do.

        Thanks for keeping your cool about all this Victoria πŸ˜…πŸ˜‡

        • endangeredtrolls

          I’m good with summer ending! πŸ˜‰ I’m sorry! πŸ˜€

          You are correct, there are some very delicate subjects being mentioned here and emotions are high. I absolutely understand why and that’s also why I try hard not to moderate comments here. Even when things get a little tense.

          At GLB we try our absolute best to offer as much as possible to our online customers during the event. I hate to say it but I think people also know it anyway, my love is ecommerce and the online community and I have always fought to have as much as possible going to those shopping online. Unfortunately, it’s just not permitted with everything.

          • Jamie

            It’s hard to not say your true feelings and throw out a few bad words I’m sure. But you’re doing great with it. It’s just best to stay clear of certain comments. But everyone does need to understand where you are coming from. Yes there is really no way to control it once the beads leave the store. Also the idea of the event bead and the events themselves. Event beads are like trophies for attending πŸ†πŸ˜
            So enough of all this conversation.. I’m looking forward to the trollbeads fall collection and people’s bead winner. Let’s get some positive conversation goingπŸ™‰βœŒ

  24. endangeredtrolls

    Listen to Keith. Come to the event πŸ˜‰ You won’t regret it πŸ˜€

  25. Faye_T

    The problem is you help at GLB events. You should not be a helper and then flipping beads on Ebay! It would be no different to Victoria or anyone else at Great Lakes taking beads that should be sold at retail and putting them on Ebay to get more for them.

    I’m staggered by the fact that you cannot see the difference there. I hope Trollbeads have something to say about all of this.

    • Annmarie

      Yes Fay I do help. But I don’t take anymore than anyone else is allowed. I keep some and resell some. As I do with other events that I fly to and pay money to attend just as the next person.

      • Faye_T

        Then I guess the people employed by Trollbeads should do the same. I’m sure they have some kind of perk where they can buy beads for themselves. It would be a nice sideline for them to take advantage of that and sell them at a mark up on Ebay.

        You disgust me and you have just brought shame to GLB.

  26. Annmarie

    I forgot to mention that I’m happy for the opportunity to buy museum beads at $600 a pop, and wouldn’t expect to pay less or retail. Does $35 for pelise or classic event sound reasonable. Not at all. I know that if they were not resold at that price I would never have the opportunity to buy them, own them and love them. And as ohm said watch what you say because you never know what someone is going through. Reselling beads may be putting food on the table and keeping the lights on.

    • Faye_T

      No one gives a hoot what you’re happy to pay for museum beads. This is about a retail level. You help at events and then resell at a profit. That reflects terribly on Great Lakes and you come here flaunting it!

  27. L2

    I was at Trollbeads at the Beach when someone from Trollbeads said one of the reason event beads may be canceled is because of resellers and you were there. I hope you’ll be proud of yourself if that happens and you ruin it for the retailers and event fans both.

  28. Mandy

    Are you joking?!

    • L2

      She isn’t. At Delaware’s event she didn’t even wait to leave the event to put the beads on Ebay. Trollbeads were furious and said very clearly this is why event beads might be canceled in future.

  29. Debbie

    I really hope this isn’t true πŸ™

  30. Beadgirl

    Victoria,

    I sincerely hope that you pass this to the rest of Great Lakes and take a very long hard look at some of the things said recently. One of your “helpers” is reselling Treasures in the official True Beadz group. Another is proud of the fact she resells too.

    I have always defended Great Lakes πŸ™

    • endangeredtrolls

      The person in question has asked for the comment to be removed which puts me in a slightly awkward position.

      For reference we have taken to heart all of the feedback regarding bead reselling from our events when it concerns people who have helped there.

      • Annmarie

        I asked for the statements to be removed not because of me but because of GLB. They and no other retailer has control over what people do with beads the buy. This is no reflection on GLB. My selling history shows no quantities sold that were outside what the regular attendee would be allowed to purchase. I actually contacted GLB and said I will not help at the events since people will view it negatively. GLB is nothing but good to their customers, and does everything they can to accommodate their online business and international customers. I’m appologizing to GLB if MY actions make THEM look bad, even when they have no control over it. So I will control it myself and not help at the events.

        • Faye_T

          That’s okay. She made a few hundred dollars so she doesn’t care about wider implications. Nor apparently about how this reflects on anyone else.

          • endangeredtrolls

            Hey Faye,

            Sorry the comment was edited and then deleted. This all caught me a little by surprise last night πŸ™

            To clarify to everyone else the above comment was Faye’s πŸ™‚

          • Faye_T

            It was absolutely my comment and I stand by it. Why wouldn’t it be mine? I wrote it. Nothing I have said over the past fortnight has been wrong. It may hurt but it’s not wrong. I hope Great Lakes choose to distance themselves from some of this. Between supporting Julia’s unethical trading and allowing staff members to resell beads, you are tarnishing your own name.

            I am sorry Victoria like others I see the effort you exude but it’s not unanimous. I only hope all of these problems don’t remove what you are and what you do.

        • Faye_T

          That’s okay. She made a few hundred dollars so she doesn’t care about wider implications. Nor apparently about how this reflects on anyone else. LOL

        • Mandy

          You disgust me.

        • L2

          My comment was removed?

          Once again I was at Delaware when Trollbeads stated that reselling was the reason event beads would be canceled. She was stood right there. She didn’t even wait until the event was over to start flipping those beads. I hope you are happy with yourself. Ruin it for retailers and collectors alike

          • endangeredtrolls

            I’m really sorry, it actually wasn’t.

            I was asked to remove the original comment and I had to do that since it was at the poster’s request. It then removed and messed up a lot of other comments.

          • Trish

            Is this who was selling Amber Waters before the event ended then? I remember a discussion on that on A2B

          • L2

            Yes Trish it takes a class act to not even wait until the event is over. Trollbeads made their thoughts plain. She should be banned from events and stores. There’s no excuse for flipping beads within a few hours you buy them. It’s exploiting other collectors. That same discussion also predicted all GLBs event beads to be on Ebay because people knew it was their helper. As a retailer they could have stopped this then but didn’t.

        • l2

          You already did reflect badly on Great Lakes. You’ve been doing this for over a year to any retailer you could. Don’t come here pretending you didnt know it would look bad and Great Lakes I’m sorry but this is your bad too

        • Debbie

          I think there are several Debbies commenting recently. Victoria please tell us this isn’t true πŸ™ Why would you support this?

          • endangeredtrolls

            I’m not supporting anything. I’m really sorry if you feel that I am πŸ™

        • Linda

          I hope Trollbeads sees this.

  31. Karin

    Great Lakes must be so proud right now <3

  32. Tracey J

    Thank you Annmarie I am one of your buyers on eBay and have thanked you a few times for me being able to purchase these beautiful event beads that I would not be able to buy at the event Thank you for what you do I am very grateful & really appreciate it 😊

  33. Jennifer

    Jennifer
    Victoria I’m going to address you personally.

    When you took the position at Great Lakes I was half thrilled and half concerned. In you the community had a voice. We had a way to express concerns about brands or retailers and they would be heard at a wider level. You gave us a platform and a captive audience in the brands. I remember decisions about international shipping being changed because of feedback here and that voice.

    You are meant to be on our side and not the side of the people who get advantages at events and profit from those. You were our person.

    I’ve been happy to see that you largely remained unbias in your reviews of beads and even critical where you clearly didn’t like something but I sincerely hope this practice is not something you support. First one helper is reselling Treasures on Facebook and now a second is doing the same on Ebay πŸ™

    • endangeredtrolls

      Morning Jennifer,

      I wanted to address you last night but let me try now. It will be long πŸ™

      Firstly in regards to my position at Great Lakes.

      No blogger that accepts product samples, uses affiliate links, has retailer adverts or takes any kind of financial compensation from a brand is independent. Nothing comes for free. As of right now, that means none of the bead bloggers are independent. I never tried to hide the fact my blog was commercial. There have always been clear disclaimers that I did receive marketing samples (and they were even declared as income.) Affiliate links were very clearly marked and I made it clear that I had paying retail clients. The whole idea of an independent blog is nice but often unrealistic. It didn’t take long for Endangered Trolls to consume several hours of my day. To keep it supplied with products for editorial contact cost thousands so essentially I was paying to work. That is why the blog became commercial in the first place. Plus well. A girls gotta eat :p

      When I took the position at GLB, Mike and myself had a very long talk about Endangered Trolls. One thing we both felt strongly about was the voice I have here. I refuse to be forced to give positive opinions on something I don’t like. Despite what people may feel, I actually have more freedom to express my opinions now than I did prior to this job. I do not depend on brands for marketing samples and actually the ability to be as honest as possible (though within reason of course,) is more valuable to GLB than selling a few extra beads based on me promoting things I don’t like.

      I am more constrained in many ways than I was years ago but that’s nothing to do with GLB. When I first started blogging Trollbeads had no relationship with any bloggers at all. These days that has all changed and anyone blogging about the brand is subject to certain conditions that relate mainly to release dates. This isn’t really surprising. Many people in the community believe that if you get your hands on a pre-release image, you can share it wherever you want to. Images aren’t actually in the public domain until they are released so they’re subject to copyright laws. Pandora have become very tough on chasing down people who share their pre-release images for example. So yes you don’t find the very advanced previews here any more but nor would you if I was independent of GLB.

      I am in the fortunate position to work with some amazing brands and I can say none of them try to interfere with what I do here. It’s been an interesting ride kind of balancing GLB with ET, for everyone not just me. Still everyone has been very supportive.

      I am still collector. Trust me when I say there are a lot of personal collectors working in bead world. So many people at both a brand and retail level have ended up with their jobs because they love beads. I can also say that nearly all of them put their personal “wants” way under those of their customers. So many beads pass through my hands that I would love to keep. Does your perspective change when you are selling them? Yes of course but please do remember my “job” was always to sell beads. It was just a little more indirect before πŸ˜‰ There was a time where my worth was judged on my ability to send traffic to a certain website and garner sales for that store or brand. Everything was based on those numbers. Traffic traffic traffic. Those pressures are no longer there so again, I can actually be more unbias than I have ever been in the past.

      Lastly comments posted here by other people are not necessarily my opinion. I will say that I have always supported a free market on the internet. Resellers exist because of demand. Do I agree with purchasing beads with the pure intent of selling at a large increase? No. I’ve been on the collector side and missed beads only to see them sold at markup. The way to tackle that aspect of any market is to try and ensure adequate supply of beads to everyone. It means cutting away the limited editions and exclusives OR being so very good at predicting demand that every single person is accommodated. Of course that’s still not the whole story because how do you then predict future demand? Some resellers then cater to a market “we” can’t reach. It’s so complex πŸ™ I wish I had an easy answer. I wish anyone did but the fact that no brand has really been able to stop it demonstrates how difficult it is. But no, I do not support those who buy to resell at inflated prices. I also know I nor anyone else can really dictate what someone does once they sell a bead.

      I’m sorry for the painfully long reply.

  34. Beadgirl

    One of GLB sells True Beadz that are a rare commodity these days to Asian resellers. One sells all the best beads to her best friends. The event staff are reselling beads. Anything else people can share?

    • Beadgirl

      I forgot the Treasures that all go to a Facebook admin!

      • endangeredtrolls

        No one is getting any special treatment in regards to True Beadz stock. I have answered so many questions and emails in exactly the same way for weeks and weeks.

        When they arrive they go on the website on a first come first served basis.

  35. Sharon

    Victoria πŸ™

    My heart is breaking for you right now. You put so much effort into the beads and the marketing everyone sees that. I wish I could give you a hug I bet none of this is you πŸ™

    • endangeredtrolls

      Thank you πŸ™‚ That’s really kind πŸ™‚

  36. Maria

    The person at fault here is Annmarie. Don’t hang GLB out with her. I’ve dealt with Victoria many times since she joined GLB and the staff at GLB for years prior. They try their best in sometimes unfortunate circumstances.

    I have no idea why Annmarie is proud of her actions but keep the anger where it should be. I hope many of you see her name and choose not to buy her beads in future. You all now have a choice.

    • Maria ( also )

      Sorry, I’m also Maria

      • Maria

        We’re the best πŸ˜‰

    • endangeredtrolls

      Thank you for your kind words πŸ™‚

  37. Maria

    Victoria, for you : 🌷 🌷 🌷

    • endangeredtrolls

      Thank you πŸ™‚ Very welcome today

  38. Saskia

    I don’t comment often but do read everyday I promise πŸ™‚ I am so sorry this horribleness has happened on such a wonderful bead. Please don’t let this stop you making your wonderful picture and arts πŸ™‚ I already have a bead fairy who shall be shopping this for me and I am excited. Please all remember this is not Victorias fault. She can’t be responsible for the way True Beadz run or the horrible choices of customers even if they do staff at events.

    • endangeredtrolls

      Hi Saskia,

      Thank you for your support reading the blog πŸ™‚ It’s much appreciated πŸ™‚

  39. Bumblebee31

    Every release I have read about regarding this autumnal event at GLB points to one that has been specifically designed to serve only those who attend. If that is the case, can this be made clear so that the online community can manage our expectations.
    It dose beg the question if Perlen, Star Bijou and Beads Fanatics can hold an event and include their online community in it, why is the GLB event choosing not to acknowledging its online community ?
    If we β€˜the online community’ are invited to this party, show us something we can look forward to rather than all the things that we cannot.

    • endangeredtrolls

      None of those retailers have Trollbeads event beads which is what the focus here is. If they had, they wouldn’t be allowed to sell them online either. Just as Trollbeads Gallery and Delaware can’t. This isn’t our decision, it’s a corporate decision.

      We cater a lot to our online community during events. I know because there are two of us that sit there and do nothing but list beads and reply to messages and emails all weekend. There was an enormous amount of product that went online during spring.

      • endangeredtrolls

        You are right of course. The happy customers are just happy. The angry customers are vocal. That’s the same in any aspect of life, you only tend to hear the bad stuff or the times you mess up πŸ˜‰

        In this instance I can hand on heart say that we try our absolute best to cater to the online community. Are there some things we actually can’t put online? Yes.

        Are there some things we have personally decided not to put online? Yes. We won’t allow unlimited ordering on beads for example. We did that in the past with one brand and customers were waiting months and months for product to arrive. So we decided only to sell what we physically have in hand – something that we all agreed on.

        We will have more stock than ever before this time because it’s also just really hard to judge demand. In spring and I hope Mike won’t mind me saying this, we were a little caught out. The unveiling of the Caterpillar just a month before the event saw in store attendance rocket and as you pointed out already, we have to cater for those attending in store. We can’t have people flying in from all over and then when they arrive saying “sorry, they went online.”

        So with each event we come away from it, we sit down and reflect and we work out what we can do better. That can range from just needing more beads or tweaking a promotion or tens of tiny different things πŸ™‚

  40. Pat

    The sellers Instagram was always full of beads as gifts and look they’re now on Ebay. People like this and bloggers selling beads for brands that dont pay taxes and Admins getting special beads to re sell for lots more that ruins bead world.

    • endangeredtrolls

      Hi,

      I had to remove your second comment with the name and link to the person in question.

    • Elise

      Keith, you rock! An unrelenting voice of reason. πŸ’ͺ😘 πŸ‘β€

  41. Mike

    Hi Everyone!

    Firstly I want to personally Thank You Victoria for doing an amazing job on this thread to answer questions and also the other thread that dealt with 10.20a.m.. I will try my very best to shed some light on the overall situation now.

    In regards to the claims that we have a special helper that works at events selling True Beadz, we don’t. Our outside helpers get rotated each event. I do appreciate all of their help in the end as that is what helps makes our event that much more special, however, there are those people that consider themselves helpers that just aren’t at that moment and that needs to be clarified.
    In regards to the Asian reseller claim, I will say that many people have requested beads from us over the past few months and since then we have stopped taking requests as the stock just isn’t there to meet demands. We are filling previous requests and once those obligations are complete, they are done, and all beads will be going online from that point on.
    With regards to Annmarie, we knew she resold beads, but we were very clear that she would get no special treatment to extra quantities and she only took the bare minimum, when like many others, had a chance to buy extra and did buy extra. We had heard the stories from the Delaware event and I will say that we had talked as a group in regards to it and also with her. I can asssure you all of that. With that being said, I can honestly say that come event time, she was a huge help. As she stated, she won’t be helping at our events moving forward.

    Since I have been getting asked about my opinion on reselling as much as Victoria has, I will say I do not condone it. As many of you know that have attended our events or even participated with us online, or called the store, we try to go above and beyond to ensure that everyone is treated equally and fairly. We do our very best to also make sure that those who can’t attend the events in person have a good shopping experience online as I feel that we do put more effort into online during our events versus other retailers. We hold events 2 times per year and although many feel that everything should be sold in store first during events, I have to say that I am one of those who strongly disagree as without the online support each and every day outside of the events, we wouldn’t be where we are today.

    If any of you, and I mean any of you would like to contact me directly regarding issues or any of the like, you may do so and our conversations will be kept in private. You can either email me directly at greatlakescoin@att.net or you can call the store at (440)266-8900.

    I will also be posting on the 10.20a.m. post as well.

    Best,
    Mike
    Owner GLB

    • Faye_T

      Hi Mike,

      Nice to see you here many of us feel sorry for Victoria. She’s a credit to you.

      Whether Annmarie gets special treatment or not isn’t the whole point. By employing her for an event you are condoning reselling. By employing that admin (Victoria I’m behaving) you are condoning reselling. By promoting True Beadz you are condoning all the unscrupulous affairs of Julia. You look guilty by association. You are supporting their actions and it isn’t enough to say “but I don’t agree with it.” I hope the decision to remove individuals from your staff at events is because you comprehend the magnitude of claims here and not because they like Julia are hosting their own anti bully campaign to attract consolation from social media.

      • Mike

        Faye_T
        I do know that me saying I don’t agree with it doesn’t solve every problem. It is a way for me to say, that hey, I don’t agree with it and as stated above, it won’t be happening in the future. Many things have made us sit back and look/reflect what is the best course of action given the circumstances. Some things we are implementing now and other things might take some time to implement, but will eventually happen. As you can see, I am available and have made myself available to chat. Unfortunately, when it comes to True Beadz, I am a retailer only whom carries the line. I can not tell Julia how to run her company, nor would I, as I wouldn’t want someone telling me how to run my company. Victoria has been in an awkward position on the other thread with which she has handled pretty darn well all things considering.

        • Faye_T

          Acknowledging a problem or error is part of any solution. Both you and Victoria deserve credit for having the nerve to stand in front of unhappy people and take the criticism with humility. Many of the issues have been exacerbated by people trying to deny, ignore or hide them. Thank you both for respecting us enough to step out here and say something. It says much about both of your characters. I do admit I am happy you did come and comment Mike as I was concerned Victoria had been left alone with this.

          • Mike

            It was never the intention to leave her alone with this. The hard part is sitting back and reflecting on the comments and what is actually fact and what is fiction, trying to take the emotion out of it. If some people only understood what others have said or led you to believe, then certain choices might have been slightly different. I hope that made some sense.

    • Jenifer

      Mike, I enjoyed the spring bead bash and I thought you, Angel, and the rest of the team you assembled ran a very good in-person event. And Victoria always does a fabulous job with the econmerce stuff (does she ever sleep?) You are all very responsive, pleasant, helpful, and good people. I appreciate all of the hard work you put into your jobs and your passions.

      Best,
      Jen

  42. Meera

    Great Lakes shouldnt be wanting to associate their name with resellers. Doesnt matter if they’re friends. Why help a part of bead world that upsets so many people?

    Why help a brand that act like TBZ do?

    Soul searching is in order.

    Comment Edited by EndangeredTrolls

    • endangeredtrolls

      Meera I had to edit your comment. Please do not name people directly.

      • Faye_T

        Now I see why you said my earlier comment was mine! I saw that!

        • endangeredtrolls

          Indeed.

          As I found out last night if I edit a comment it removes the details of the original author πŸ˜› My tech guy is trying to fix it πŸ˜›

        • endangeredtrolls

          Indeed :p Found out last night that if I edit a comment, it removes the details of the original author. My tech guy is trying to fix it πŸ™‚

      • Meera

        I am sorry. I understand

    • Mike

      Meera-
      I wouldn’t call it soul searching as much as it is making changes. We strive to do the right thing everyday. We wouldn’t be one of the largest bead retailers globally if we didn’t care. We have been discussing all the concerns on both threads and if I didn’t care, or my staff didn’t care, we wouldn’t be addressing the issues.

  43. Tina

    I’ve read the comments and I feel the need to weigh in….
    1. No retailer can tell someone what to do with a bead that they have purchased it
    2. The only reason the market price is so high it because people chose to purchase at an inflated price. Don’t buy it!!! They can only sell at an inflated price if a person choses to purchase it.
    3. People its only beads for crying out loud. If you don’t like the way some of the brads chose to sell their product then don’t purchase it, simple as that.

    • Mary T

      Well said Tina

  44. Caroline

    Wow, with all the strife in our world, sounds like A Tempest in a Teapot!

  45. Angela

    Goodness, this is quiet a boiling pot adding my comments to the Stew.
    @ Keith
    Have been enjoying your post and I agree with you, sadly some people read but are not really comprehending what we post, they just want to enjoy being upset.By their comments I have realized they have never been to an Event, have no clue what actually happens , no idea about the actual trading and buying ovcuring among attendees outside of the event itself.

    Years back when I attended my first event Dear Husband was sitting in the car waiting for me and was astonished to see ladies with actual cases, (remember the make up cases in the luggage sets )of beads actively trading and buying from each other. When I returned to the car he said β€œI thought you were nuts with this bead business and the only avid collector but there are dozens of you, Look at them over there all you can see was butts and elbows”. Sure enough in a parking lot all those people bent over each other’s bead cases and bracelets yep butts elbows and most of all they were so excited and happy as you can imagine trading ,selling and buying beads. That’s just one way some people end up with a bracelet of the same bead .

    I ask you to use your brains ? This is the thing could Great Lakes ,Victoria a Retailer or anyone else want or could stop them ? No because those beads belong to those ladies they can do whatever they want with their beads. Plus I believe Retailers know this is part of the fun that attendees look forward to. Now that Great Lakes has their event at a Hotel what do you think some will do after dinner?
    Very nice to get on your high horse and claim or dictate who other folks should or should not associate with I say Hypocrite much?
    No one is perfect I guarantee that many of us have something in some other area of our lives that cannot hold up to this kind of scrutiny . Wonder what your lives are like that you are so judgmental and therefore so quick to assume the worst that there is something super nefarious happening.

    For the last couple of weeks there have been a variation of three questions that keep being asked it’s the same darn question over and the answers have been equally consistent
    1)Helpers having access to and reselling choice beads on eBay
    2)Regarding True Beadz their supply, distribution and the Bead Fairy.
    3) True OHM and how that will work?

    Mike (GLB) and Victoria have answered with what they know and how they intend to move forward . So sorry you do not like the answers but they took the time to answer. If Julia does not communicate with either Mike or Victoria what more can they offer? Should they lie or make something up ? Would that be satisfactory?
    Please note while you may feel empowered if it were done Mike cannot bar Annmarie from his store she has done nothing illegal or stolen from his shop. That’s like someone who spends thousands at GLB asking to bar customers who are occasionally buying only one or two beads per year.
    They also cannot force Julia to respond ,slavery is dead she has a skill we all enjoy and want ,but as her right she has chosen to use her skill as she sees fit .You also free people can agree, disagree .
    Another bit of frustration Rewording the same question in a passive aggressive manner doesn’t make you look smart in fact it becomes repetitive and annoying to other readers and in turn diminished your formerly brilliant question and observations. Please stop as you may not realize that you complement and condemn in the same post. I personally am beginning to wonder if you have ulterior motives to keep this going. Not Victoria’s or GLB if you are not satisfied with answers that should actually come from Julia. But because she won’t entertain you you appear to brow beat and bully the only person who attempts answer.

    Maybe to some a silly thing but one is part of the problem or part of a solution after rereading both these threads I believe there could be solutions for all. Everyone, Mike , Victoria,you and Julia all free people can wait till Julia straightens here situation out and wants to make beads, find another brand to carry /support or not,those are your only options take it or leave it. It’s all up to the choice we make that is the only thing we can control.

    IMO Julia by taking her toys and leaving the playground from a PR standpoint is not handling this well.
    Again IMO I am not excusing Julia and her treatment of all of who are upset but from my own experience you know how they say be careful what you wish for as you just might get it ? Julia wished for True Beads to be a successful brand , for people to love and enjoy her work” a bit of greed may be there too . Whatever she had high hopes that she could do it all,what she never realized or expected was that she would loose spontaneity ,creativity and be stuck in drudgery making hundreds of the same old bead and that it would drain the life and energy from her. Julia like many other artists personalities (I will include myself here) tend to be temperamental, easily bored, hate repetition and somewhat thin skinned .Making one or a dozen /few dozen beads are fun while making a few hundreds is agony. New designs are exciting they give birth to even better ideas. A Designer is not always good at mass production and the mass production person is rarely a good designer.
    Right about now I think Miss Julia could
    be in turmoil and feeling frustrated, she knows you are upset but cannot figure out how to give us what we want , and deal with making another of the design you lave.

    Looking ahead a TrueBeadz collaboration with OHM may be a positive ,they have production facilities and if they could contain OHM with strong legal terms maybe Julia could get back to what she loves doing.
    I just believe the more we scream and harp the more she retreats for comfort from her little group,and will lock her pretty toys away , produce more fabulous designs for her friends like those appearing on Facebook. She tunes us out and is angry at us for not understanding her situation.

    No matter what for me personally she has to loose the Bead Fairy. It’s her friend but most of us don’t* want to under cut out favourite Retailers. I would have said *None of us but several of you have already been utilizing the Bead Fairy.

    I say we all take a deep breath,a step back, reevaluate why we collect beads. Which brands we like , and or maybe even who we would like GLB or our favourite Retailer to carry. Life is too short to be this worked up about a bit of glass, and $3 worth of silver give the pointer fingers a rest remember the ones pointed at you.
    I’m channeling Victoria here(let’s have a glass of wine , tea whatever relaxes you & group hug.πŸ˜‹

    @Victoria,
    Awesome job ,so proud of you.

    • Layla

      Oh Angela, what a breath of fresh air your post has been. Ive been sitting back reading all this and am in disbelief. I am new to beads, so maybe im missing something. I am trying to see both sides here, and hope that maybe there are valid points and this faye, L2 and others are not just evil miserable people. I have yet to hear the reason why resellers are ruining the bead world. It feels more like the negativity about EVERYTHINGGGG possible out of these peoples mouths is ruining it. If they have such an issue with brands and retailers why do they even still bother. Seems like more of a place to misdirect anger from other aspects of their lives.

      If I look at this from a technical standpoint, event beads are meant for people who attend the events. The brands will not allow these special beads sold online, correct? Is the issue here then, that beads are being sold to people who did not attend the event? If that is the case, then I would have to say that bead fairies are just as in the wrong. Supplying people who dont attend the event with these special beads.

      I also agree with you that retailers could not ban Ann Marie from stores as she has done nothing illegal. And, if they banned her, they would have to band what I would think is MANY customers from their store. When I started buying beads, I started buying on Ebay. Ebay is flooded with trollbeads, ohm beads, pandora etc. So I owuld assume that would have a major impact on retailers and brands alike.

      I guess my point is, I’ve read a lot of hate here. People saying that re-sellers are disgusting, ruining the bead world, should be ashamed of their selves, etc. I am trying to understand why though. What is the real issue here? People making money, or people offering beads to others who cannot attend? If its the first case, than that sounds like pure jealousy, if its the second than bead fairies arent the beautiful souls people make them out to me.

      Im not taking side here. Im really just trying to understand what the true issue is, and why there is so much hate being thrown around. I dont have an opinion either way, other than i think some of the comments are inappropriate, and there MUST be some underlying non-bead related issues. I guess I dont take beads all that seriously. I buy what I want and I dont what I dont. This seems like some crazy cult, with some angry bead gods trying to dictate what people can and cant do with beads before they attack them and damn them to hell. Ive never heard of such a thing where a collectible item could not be resold.

      Please, somebody enlighten me!
      Many thanks to victoria for responding with class.
      Hugs to you GLB, OHM, TRUE …

      • Jenifer

        Crazy cult … yeah it does come across that way. Which is really sad cause I think it scares off new collectors. I know when this level of crazy crops up it makes me rethink my membership.

    • endangeredtrolls

      Thank you πŸ™‚ That was really kind and made me a lil bit emotional πŸ˜›

  46. Michael

    I’m sure I missed it somewhere along the line, but can you tell me how many of the Violet Caterpillars were made?
    Thanks

    • Michael

      Never mind. I found it.

      • endangeredtrolls

        It was originally 500. A second batch were ordered to increase it to 1000 πŸ™‚

  47. endangeredtrolls

    **Admin Update**

    Last night I had a series of comments posted here which were flagged as suspicious. If you have comments missing it’s because you were posting on multiple user accounts. I can see your IPs. Making fake accounts to support your opinion is not okay. Nor is doing it in a stream.

    Your IPs are no longer able to comment.

  48. Debbie

    Sending you more hugs

  49. Debbie

    Comments came through at last! Please delete spares!

    • endangeredtrolls

      Sorry πŸ™‚ Lots of comments were moderated. I have deleted your spare parts :p

  50. niamh

    I love this! Two questions plx. Do you know if there will be a Troll Halloween release? Also was this image live?

    • endangeredtrolls

      Hi πŸ™‚ Sorry for the slow approval time πŸ™‚

      Firstly… wait and see πŸ™‚ I can neither confirm nor deny πŸ™‚ Secondly.. nope! This was a mockup so it’s been heavily (and not well,) manipulated. We don’t have the beads in hand yet. Once we do I’ll sort out live images

  51. Elise

    I am truly disappointed to see Keith’s remarks removed. He provided excellent counterpoints to Faye_T. This has been so unmeasured, so unkind, and so cruel to some extremely good people. Incredibly disappointed and saddened regarding the moderation and favor shown to Faye_T.

    • endangeredtrolls

      There is no favour being shown to Faye. A couple of users had their IPs blocked after it was discovered they were posting from multiple accounts. Once my hosting blocked the IPs they also went back historically and removed all comments made from the same IPs.

      Any other comments outside of these removed or edited were where they had named a member of the community or linked directly to them.

  52. Elise

    As a post script. I would like to share a few facts about event beads. On the first day, attendees at Bead Bash were alloted 10 Trollbeads caterpillars. On day two, they were allowed to buy 5 more. There were many dealers and operators of private bead groups in attendance, “bead fairies” and resellers, happy to pay full retail to get a supply of rare-ish beads. They openly bought beads with the intent to resell. I honestly do not understand the fuss people have made – this is the reality. No one deserves to be shamed here.

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